Don't have an account? Early in the series, Mr. Kemal Pamuk, an attach from the embassy of the Ottoman Empire comes to Downton, and after a day hunting and experiencing all things British, visits Lady Mary Crawley, eldest daughter of the family, at night. That is, until we learn that Thomas also tried to blackmail the Duke by threatening to release their intimate letters. (Cue labrador puppies running on a green lawn, soaring music.) She did say that she is compelled to not marry each man her family wants for her. Evelyn Napier is bringing an unexpected guest: a Turkish diplomat named Kemal Pamuk ( Divergent 's Theo James ). [32], In June 2016, James travelled to Greece with UNHCR, where he met Syrian refugees and learned more about their situation. Thomas poisoned pamuk with salt of sorrel from ep one. Despite his own wish to be a groom due to his natural affinity with . Thank you for visiting this blog. He knows Lavinia as . As we prepare for the upcoming film version, we're remembering the shock we felt when we first witnessed these scandalous moments. 1) Well, Mary was obviously attracted to the man, and he was attracted to her, and there was quite a lot of flirting. It makes for good television. See you at your inbox! [The diplomat] was found dead by his valet in bed.' So we might say we would fight our attacker off, but until we are in such a situation, we really do not know how we would respond. Select Page. Anna then asks Cora to help as well in order to try and prevent a public scandal that would ruin Mary's reputation and her marriage prospects. Carlisle made his money as a powerful and ruthless newspaper proprietor. 2. It never got out," he concluded. In addition, we thank the many experts and authors who frequently contribute their posts and opinions, and who continue to do so freely or at our request. So far the only people who know about the Pamuk scandal are Anna, Cora, and Daisy, who witnessed it firsthand. The diary entry said the house had a passageway that was only for single women and that one of them smuggled this diplomat into her room, and he died. I agree, Martha. Although she tells him to leave, he doesn't. We all felt for Tom after Sybil's shocking death, but it was kind of uncomfortable to see him fall into the hands of this master manipulator, even for a minute. She didnt realize she loved him and she was also afraid of losing her social position. Share on Facebook (opens in a new window), Share on Flipboard (opens in a new window). They got away with it.". She immediately got out of bed and covered her (already covered) body as much as possible with her sheets. [6][7], James was raised in Askett. In this case it is Matthew and she still cant admit it to herself that she is giving in to this man and to her familys wishes. "When Mary pulls her mother in and says Mr Pamuk is dead, that was a real story.". While it may have seemed far-fetched to the ITV show's viewers, Fellowes revealed at the Cheltenham Literary Festival that it was based on an event in the 1890s. Kicking the series off in high-drama style, weekend guest Kemal Pamuk died of a heart attack while in bed with Lady Mary. He is best known for portraying Tobias "Four" Eaton in The Divergent Series film trilogy. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. After Lady Mary tells her mother Cora that she might be interested in him, Cora writes to Evelyn to invite him to stay at Downton Abbey rather than a pub, where Evelyn had planned to stay. 'Mandalorian' Funko Pops up to 77% Off Baby Yoda and More for Season 3, Who Plays the Armorer in 'The Mandalorian'? 4) She didnt actually ever say yes. It was never revealed in either the show itself or by the show runners. Perhaps at that point she still saw him as the heir and not exactly Matthew yet. Dowager Countess may be a pillar of British society, but it turns out that she almost left her husband and kids for the wild-eyed, mysterious Russian Prince Kuragin. [19] James reprised the character in the sequel, The Divergent Series: Insurgent (2015). This account already exists. To everyones surprise and delight, Pamuk turns out to be exceptionally handsome. This story was written in the diary of the great great aunt of the owner of the house, which had been found by Fellowes' friend. Get involved in exciting, inspiring conversations. "The older woman realised that if the story got out, the house would be tainted by scandal. This unfortunately is a plot flaw and makes no sense. This was back in the 1920's, the operation seemed small enough that anesthesia was not needed, and it required a period of abstinence. Due to SPAM, we will no longer accept comments on posts after 30 days of publication. Mashable is a registered trademark of Ziff Davis and may not be used by third parties without express written permission. Mr. Pamuk had earlier rebuffed Thomas advances but blackmailed Thomas that he would not say anything (which would result in Thomas getting sacked) if he would do something for him (Mr. Pamuk). I think he said You can still be a virgin for your husband and meant with a little imagination. I even have the Madeira on hand. . I dont think it was a rape. This storyline was based on a true story that Julian Fellowes heard from a friend although the identity of the diplomat and grand country house where his death occurred still remains a secret. Jan 30, 2023 . right in Lady Mary's bed. Later on in the morning, Thomas arrives with tea and to dress Kemal, but discovers the deceased Kemal, with his eyes still open, in his bed. Kemal Pamuk was the son of one of the Turkish Sultan's ministers. Matthew will someday inherit both the earl's title and his real estate, thanks to the entail. February 26, 2013. ownton Abbey creator Julian Fellowes says the storyline that saw a Turkish diplomat die in the bed of the earl's eldest daughter is based on fact. Our pal looked in his great-grandfather's diary and it said, 'We had a great tragedy this weekend. [25] He stars in the romance series The Time Traveler's Wife, which premiered in May 2022. Anna realizes that Kemal's body is too heavy to carry back to his room in the bachelor's corridor, on the other side of the house. By his father he was a distant relative of the Earls of Grantham and he became the heir of the title due the heir's death. Everyone assumes Mr. Bates is somehow involved in the valet's murder, but when Mrs. Hughes finds a train ticket to York in his pocket, our heart sank. His corpse is then smuggled back to his room by Lady Mary's motheranda maid. This whole scene bothered me deeply. They had a passage that was only for single women. Theodore Peter James Kinnaird Taptiklis was born in High Wycombe on 16 December 1984. This theory all comes down to . Here are all the major losses the show has suffered over six seasons, not counting the two heirs to the Downton estate who perished on the Titanic in the very first episode. Anyone with any common sense would have surmised that Thomas betrayed Lady Mary. 367K views 3 years ago #DowntonAbbey #TheoJames #MaryCrawley Mary is shocked to find Pamuk lifeless in her bed and needs help to cover it up. Dont forget that during this period and the Victorian period, there was A LOT of illicit sex going on such as affairs, etc. Was it that she couldnt find the way to explain Pamuks death? He is best known for portraying Tobias "Four" Eaton in The Divergent Series film trilogy. Theres also a subplot where Bates (Brendan Coyle) buys a painful contraption to cure his bum leg, but I cant talk about that because I have an active dislike of Bates. [15] He reprised his character David in the fifth Underworld film, as the film's male lead. Perhaps readers can help answer these particulars. In one of a shocking, almost unwatchable episode, Lord Gillingham's sociopathic valet corners Anna during a holiday party and attacks her viciously. The kissing starts out rather one-sided, but soon she starts kissing him back. So we romanticize Mr. Pamuk and lady Mary's midnight encounter. [1][2] He is the son of Philip Taptiklis, a business consultant, and Jane (ne Martin), who worked for the National Health Service. Once again we have to wait 10 anxious months before seeing the results. While staying with Rosamund, Mary meets Carlisle at Cliveden. Hearst Magazine Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved. We may receive books (physical or digitized) and DVDs for review purposes. Kemal will stay silent if later on, after everybody is in bed, Thomas will lead Kemal through the hallways in the vast house, to Lady Mary's bedroom. I also lost my grandmother, with the flu in 1918. Mary was young, innocent, bored to death and found this exciting, exotic, attractive man who desired her. Much of Marys character throughout the series might be summed up as that of a woman whose constricted existence assumes a boring and predictable future, however privileged. By signing up to the Mashable newsletter you agree to receive electronic communications [9][10], In 2010, James made his television debut in two episodes of A Passionate Woman. Ned Ehrbar is an entertainment producer for CBS News. Anyway, Im hoping more information will come out on this in Season 3, i.e. 2 men found drugged after leaving NYC gay bars were killed, medical examiner says. "About 15 years ago, he was looking through a diary of a great aunt, and in it was this account of a diplomat.". Downton may be a soap opera, but with this storyline, it asked its audience to reckon with how powerless and vulnerable most women of the period were. [3][4][5] He is of Greek and Scottish descent. From Season 1, Episode 6. In the first series Lady Mary, played by Michelle Dockery, is seduced by visitor Kemal Pamuk, played by Theo James, but he dies suddenly, forcing her to smuggle his body out of her bedroom with the help of her mother and housemaid Anna. William Mason PBS Sweet-natured footman William went off to war, where. She announced the news with a huge smile on her face to her completely unsuspecting husband Henry Talbot in an empty car showroom. Read our, {{#verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}} {{^verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}}. In the Christmas episode when she finally tells Matthew and he asks why she did it, she said lust or boredom. I am stilll mad Edith wrote Pamuks dad. I wish Fellowes would provide an explanation in the next season. 1) The whole plot revolves around Lady Mary not defending herself so it's a mystery. Thomas, acting as Kemal's valet, is also attracted to Kemal. In television, he has appeared in the crime drama series Golden Boy (2012), the romance series The Time Traveler's Wife (2022), and the dark comedy series The White Lotus (2022), for which he received a Screen Actors Guild Award. After dinner, Kemal motions her to leave the room and pretends to ask her about a small painting. As reported to day at Vulture.com, Downton Abbey's Theo James-who played Mr. Pamuk-will be replacing Ryan Phillippe in Greg . Cousin Matthew was surprisingly and unceremoniously dispatched via a random car accident. Sexy but scheming Thomas lures the Duke of Crowborough to Downton with a promise of access to Mary's fortune. Do you think Matthew is a virgin? @Andie Paysinger really? 1) The show did not explain how Mr. Pamuk was able to convince Lady Mary that she would still be a virgin but it is widely understood in Muslim countries that when single men and women have sexual relations the women may retain their virginity by submitting to anal intercourse. I think its assumed that Lady Mary invited Pamuk to her room though she never questioned how he found her. Evelyn Napier is bringing an unexpected guest: a Turkish diplomat named Kemal Pamuk (Divergents Theo James). Remember, if it was torn she could always tell her future husband it was due to horse back riding, maybe thats why in those days women rode side saddle??? "One day, one of them [the ladies] was sleeping. [29][30], Outside his acting career, James was the singer and guitarist of the London-based band Shere Khan, which disbanded in 2012. Pamuk," the dashing Turkish diplomat who makes a fateful visit to the Abbey. Downton Abbey's Lady Mary is pregnant. James launched his own film and TV production company, named Untapped, that same year. Best Picture Nominee Triangle of Sadness Is Now Streaming on Hulu, Stream It Or Skip It: 'Gulmohar' on Hulu, a Hindi Family-Ties Drama Marking the Return of Sharmila Tagore, Steven Spielberg Broke Down in Tears Seeing Paul Dano and Michelle Williams as His Parents in 'The Fabelmans', Is Brendan Frasers The Whale Based on a True Story? Afterwards, rumours swirled in London that she was not virtuous, fuelled by Mary's sister, Lady Edith (Laura Carmichael) sending a letter to the Turkish ambassador who regaled all of London with reports of Mary's impropriety. It has long bothered me that we have had to continuously revisit the Pamuk story line without getting any clarification on these issues. Out of respect to their friend, Mr Fellowes and his wife vowed to never reveal the house or the diplomat and women involved. The potential result of screaming was potentially worse, if you can imagine, than succumbing to his wishes and hoping it would always be kept quiet. 1,170, This story has been shared 869 times. Mr. Pamuk's Death. "Downton Abbey" has been sold to more than 100 countries, including Australia,and scooped four wins at the 63rd Primetime Emmy Awards last month. Charlie, a good friend of Lady Mary's husband Henry, died in a car crash while competing in a race -- which probably only strengthened Lady Mary's dislike for fast driving. Your comments and suggestions are most welcome. Several questions were sent in by readers about Lady Mary and Pamuk. Gentle readers: Please feel free to post your comments and continue the conversation! The Mr Pamuk Scandal in 5 Minutes (Theo James) | Recap | Downton Abbey Downton Abbey 179K subscribers Subscribe 17K views 1 month ago #DowntonAbbey A Recap of the scandal to end all. Thomas is seduced by the intriguing Turkish allur of visitor, Mr. Pamuk.From season 1 episode 3: Cora's attempts at matchmaking are dashed when Mary is smitt. Because the show defied conventions of the time with its characters and their development. Join the conversation, you are commenting as. No one asks her and thats strange. One of them had smuggled this. Mary, in a state of shock and panic, goes to wake Anna, one of the maids, and pleads for her help. I scanned the cover and posted it on my Facebook page. We are living in vastly more sophisticated time now and it is possible that Lady Mary had only rudimentary understanding of sex together with a well trained women are subservient to men indoctrination for that era. He was named a "Star of Tomorrow" in 2009 by Screen International.[13]. and again, what really matters is, she said NO, and as I hope everyone is aware, there can be no gray area here, anytime someone who has said no is pressured to have sex that is rape. [The diplomat] was found dead by his valet in bed.' They wont say that in the series, because at the time, people were not thinking about it that way. Thomas led Pamuk to Marys room. 1,488, This story has been shared 1,330 times. 466, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window), Click to email a link to a friend (Opens in new window). I think its safe to say that no one like Pamuk had ever crossed her path, so she was unprepared to cope with her feelings, including those she experienced when he appeared in her bedroom. For me, how Mary handles the Pamuk crisis, gives us an insight into her core values. From season 1 episode 3: Cora's attempts at. All he did was convince her not to directly say no and raise the alarm. 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They woke everyone in the passageway, who carried the corpse the entire length of the house to his bed. The local Downton doctor, Dr. Richard Clarkson, believes that Kemal had a heart attack in his own bed. The unknown life she might share with Matthew was scary and she wasnt sure she was willing to take that risk. During the podcast episode, Fellowes tells host Jacqueline Coley, "When Mary pulls her mother in and says Mr Pamuk is dead, that was a real story.". Died off Prome, the 7th October 1852, while in command of the Naval Expedition on the river Irrawady against the Burmese Forces, aged 73 years.. Kemal is very attracted to Lady Mary Crawley, who returns his flirting while riding horseback and again at dinner. Because it's totally normal to go to Switzerland for a year and then spend a lot of time with the farmer's kid down the road. Mr. Pamuk Gets Close To Mary | Downton Abbey Watch on With a fresh corpse lying in her bed, and the prospect of her reputation being shattered by the scandal looming, Lady Mary wakes Anna. Mr. Bates' mean old first wife killed herself and made it look like he'd murdered her. Michelle Dockery as Lady Mary in 'Downton Abbey'. A cemetery posted a personal ad for a goose whose mate died. Mary is scared and attracted to him at the same time. There were many ways to pleasure himself and Mary and keep her hymen intact without resorting to THAT. With Hugh Bonneville, Jessica Brown Findlay, Laura Carmichael, Jim Carter. We do not accept any form of cash advertising, sponsorship, or paid topic insertions. I agree with Ruth. 1881 - 10 November 1938) was a Turkish field marshal, revolutionary statesman, author, and the founding father of the Republic of Turkey, serving as its first president from 1923 until his death in 1938. He's hot and foreign and the tryst is scandalous for 1912. We know that rat Thomas told him after threat of exposure from his peccadillo, but the plot should have someone asking. Was Pamuk murdered Downton Abbey? Fans Fuming Over Mayim Bialik and Ken Jennings' Hosting Schedules: "I Want Ken Full-Time". Mr Fellowes said that rather than being a work of fiction, the story was inspired by an incident that took place in a great English house around 1890. She asked Will it hurt? William's parents had three other sons and one daughter who had all died in their early infancy. It is possible that she feared making love with Matthew would result in his death!!! c. 1530s - The Dissolution of the Monasteries, under Henry VIII . The ne'er-do-well was pushed into traffic in Piccadilly Circus shortly after raping Anna Bates. Then, Kemal Pamuk died in Lady Marys bed. He starred as Will Younger in the Netflix film How It Ends (2018). Thanks for signing up. Matthew then met his third-cousin, once removed, Robert Crawley, 7th Earl of Grantham, and moved to Downton . via the Amazon Vine Program Now that she knows he couldn't have been responsible, though, what was he doing there? From then on, I knew that she would develop into a character whom I could admire! THE author of a hit TV costume drama says a shocking sex scandal that featured prominently in the first series was based on a real 19th-century incident. All times AEDT (GMT +11). Hello, my name is Vic and I live in Maryland, USA. Unauthorized use and/or duplication of this material without express and written permission from this blogs author and/or owners is strictly prohibited. After refusing to leave her bed-chamber despite Mary's initial requests, his pushy advances soon thrust the couple into the throes of heated passion. As fans of the show will know, the same cannot be said of Lady Mary, whose story did not entirely go untold. Her mother questioned whether that was necessary, but Mary insisted that she had to tell him before she accepted his proposal! You make very good points and I had considered them, but considering the positions they were in when Mr. Pamuk died, I did not think he died following Lady Marys having performed fellatio on him. This section is for listing events that take place prior to the beginning of the series. He added that lots of houses had "bachelor corridors" for single men, but it wasn't the case for single women. Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting. It subverted expectations and illustrated that the ice queen had both a heart and a libido. She DID nod yes and kiss him. Each email has a link to unsubscribe. Nationwide News Pty Ltd 2023. Lets see if I may answer your questions: 1) I am guessing that Lady Mary had enjoyed a flirtation with Mr. Pamuk, but was shocked by his sudden appearance in her room and a combination of shock and uncertainty of what to do left her unable to defend herself. There are several things we could take from his statement, including the fact that men will say whatever it takes! Probably because she was spoilt and did not fully deserve him at that point. First published on March 4, 2016 / 1:53 PM. / CBS NEWS. Finally, she got up and knocked on the door of the woman next door," Fellowes said. We can cook as 100 years ago? His corpse is then smuggled back to his room by Lady Mary's mother and a maid. Did he ever come to check this out? done. [24], James produced and appeared in the 2020 science fiction film Archive, playing a robotics scientist working on a secret project involving building a prototype based on his dead wife. Because if not she can just assume that he might have followed her, asked any other servant, or found another way. "She sat there for a bit with this dead body. Then I was super confused by her reference feeling like Tess of the dUrbervilles in Season 2 as Tess was raped and eventually kills her attacker. 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Reader #1 Q1. I have never understood why that was not further discussed in the series. 2,738, This story has been shared 2,225 times. Q2. In a classic Downton war-time martyr moment, Daisy opts to marry the injured footman she never really fancied in a deathbed ceremony, just so that he won't have to go to the grave alone. Q2. [20] He returned in one more Divergent film, The Divergent Series: Allegiant (2016). Rachel Thompson is the Features Editor at Mashable. STAGE-COACH AND MAIL IN DAYS OF YORE: A PICTURESQUE HISTORY It would not be hard for Pamuk to convince Mary that she would still be virtuous, because she didnt know very much about it. Mary jilts her fianc, Sir Richard Carlisle, despite his threat to publish . When Thomas asks about Turkey, Mr. Pamuk answers that it is a nice country. He then executive produced and starred in the film Lying and Stealing. god, people can be so judgmental and prudish; you cannot possibly know what julian fellowes was or was not insinuating. "About 15 years ago he was looking through a diary of a great aunt, and in it was this account of a diplomat. Ummm, gross. Just another site Violet confronts Cora Crawley. They got away with it. 2) How did Pamuk learn where Lady Marys room was? Now as to why didnt she defend herself: because even having a man in her bedroom was a huge schandal that would ruin her forever. Original Air Date: October 10, 2010 Amazon also offers this book on Kindle. Edith, Violet, Rosamund, Bates, Sir Richard, Robert and Matthew find out about it later. I think she rejected Matthew because her aunt advised her and she is not used to making up her own mind about things, and she is so very wary of living less well than she does now. The woman was at "her wits' end" and woke up the matron, an older woman who realised that if the story got out, everyone in the house would be tainted by scandal. Even today, young women when confronted with rape have many conflicting emotions and if the man is moving ahead in pursuit of his desires, the young woman does not have time to process alternatives and make a firm decision until it is too late many young women who have been raped report feeling unable to scream. Then she passed. [22][23] James executive produced and starred as Michael in Backstabbing for Beginners (2018). Sign up for exclusive newsletters, comment on stories, enter competitions and attend events. Vic Sanborn, founder of this blog, is supported by a team of talented and knowledgeable writers about Jane Austen and the Regency era. Pamuk's death also affects Bates' relationship with Lord Grantham, with his estranged wife Vera, and his complex relationship with Mary's. 20052023 Mashable, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. James starred alongside Amber Heard, Billy Bob Thornton and Jim Sturgess in the film adaptation of London Fields,[21] and in the indie drama The Benefactor (2015), with Richard Gere and Dakota Fanning. Read the full article in The Sunday Times. She of all the sisters enjoys her comforts. No one asks her and that's strange. Thomas agrees. She'd had a flirtation with a man at the house party and he was in her bed and he died he had a heart attack," he continued. Pamuk said he would expose her if she didn't let him have his way with her, and she never tells anyone that. "That story came from a friend of my wife and I who had a great house," he said. Deep down, Lady Mary is a very modern woman, and Anna is a key member of her proto-squad. Then, to have him die off-camera in her bed was even more stunning. I think Lady Mary really wanted the encounter- she finds Pamuk so fascinating and handsome and she desires him, so that even though she is shocked at first she gives in very easily. By clicking Sign up you confirm that your data has been entered correctly and you have read and agree to our Terms of use, Cookie policy and Privacy notice. ', Wordle today: Here's the answer, hints for March 3. [1] They have a daughter, born in 2021. At first, Thomas's sexuality is portrayed through the lens of a tragically doomed love affair in a closeted time. RELATED: Downton Abbey: Why the Show Killed Dan Stevens' Matthew Crawley James was cast in Stranger while still in his final year at drama school. log in. furthermore, Kathryn Ryder was only giving her own opinion and sharing her theories, which is the point of this whole thing anyway. But we soon find out that that he really wanted to continue the behind-the-scenes action he'd had with the Duke himself over the summer.